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Jake Adam York
Darkly
for Dave Smith
The moss never falls.
However gray,
it
hangs like shirts
left to weather and rag
over
the road
and the dead-end rail
and in all the branches
from there to the shore
and then as far upriver
as you can see.
Here it's only open water,
empty
sky,
two ends of road no one uses,
landfill on
one side, thicket
on the other,
the story of a
bridge between.
Below, the water's huddled,
cold
and silver.
It won't show a thing.
So I look for
that place in the air
where they held a gun
on
Willie Edwards
and told him he could jump.
How
you'd ask me-
Why's so simple
it won't
tell a thing-
how'd they get there,
Edwards in their
hands,
along the roads so many others took
to church
or to the movies
or home
along the same white lines?
To condemn is easy, you said,
to condemn is to turn away
where no one will ever understand.
So, I go back, downtown,
to Jefferson Street, though
their haven, their Little Kitchen's gone.
I can cruise, can walk
and search each pane of glass
for that wave of heat,
the echo
that will fill the night
fifty years gone
when
five men bent
in the diner's greasy light-
as Mongtomery
darkened
beyond the window,
each bus offering its
insult
or imagined slight-
and planned to kill a
man
they'd never seen.
I can walk their streets,
though no one walks here anymore,
until I catch that
curve
in a window or a windshield
that wrecks my
face
so for a moment
I can mistake myself
for
the redneck at the end of a joke.
Every map is open but
a man,
and you can turn away
before you see how
it's drawn,
or arrive too late
and miss that moment
when he sees himself as his language does,
when every
other face
becomes the glass but his own.
Maybe
the streetlamps remember the light,
gelid and thin as bacon fat,
as the vowel in your mouth
that just won't break,
a door I can walk through,
a room where I can sit beside them
hardly out of place,
then watch them rise and part
the city's yellow crepe of light,
and then a door I can open
to follow through the warehouse streets
to the city's fence
with a memory
only half my own.
I know
these nights.
The sky is ash
and if you wait too
long
your bones sing in your fingers,
cold as galvanized
wire.
The rest of the way
comes from somewhere else.
There are many ways to get there
and then the one
I can't understand:
already,
maybe always being
there.
Maybe they were born
into that vacant sky
and they were always there,
ready to force a choice
so they wouldn't have to
make one,
waiting for someone else
to write their names in air or water.
They never arrived,
so it didn't matter
they'd
grabbed the wrong man,
wouldn't have mattered
if
they'd found the one
they were looking for.
They'd
still disappear,
like the bridge,
and be forgotten
by the water.
They'd still come,
each one, to that
morning
at the end of everything
when they'd look
back
on the healing water
and say
My
life hasn't meant a thing.
Some things are beyond
us.
The moss never falls.
The river won't say a
thing.
I lean, clouding
its reflected night.
And now I can't tell you
how I got here
or what I'd hoped to see,
what face would rise
if
light swept from the channel
or the opposite shore.
The sky is empty,
and the river's bent
like a question too close
or too far away to read.
Lean down, lean down
while the light's abducted,
its last skirts caught
then torn through
the trees.
Keep your own eye still
so no one catches you.
When it's gone, it's everywhere-
air
a memory of light,
incident turned ambient,
and it never takes long
for this nacre to grow
over each absence
or intruder
and become the world.
Lean down now,
creel of starlight and moon,
and reflect again
your inherited light.
World may ripple-
pearl, scale, pebble, bone-
behind all memory,
may
ghost you, stranger,
where you don't belong.
Lean down now,
as memory hardens
its incomparable
light.
Don't let the sun
set on you again.
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Jake Adam York is the author of three books
of poems—Murder Ballads (2005), selected by Jane Satterfield for the Fifth Annual Elixir Press Awards
Judge's Prize, A Murmuration of Starlings, selected by Cathy Song for the Crab Orchard Series in Poetry
(2008), and Persons Unknown, an editor's selection in the Crab Orchard Series in Poetry (2010)&8212;as
well as a work of literary history, The Architecture of Address: The Monument and Public Speech in American Poetry,
published by Routledge in 2005.
His poems have
appeared in Shenandoah, Oxford American, Greensboro Review, Gulf Coast, New Orleans Review, Quarterly West,
Diagram, Octopus, Southern Review, Poetry Daily, and other journals.
York is an associate professor of English and Creative Writing at the University of Colorado Denver, where
he directs an undergraduate Creative Writing program and produces Copper Nickel with his students and colleagues.
A fifth-generation Alabamian, York was raised
in and around Gadsden, Alabama, the son of a steel-worker and a history teacher. In 1994, he took at BA in English
from Auburn University. He continued on to Cornell University, where he earned an MA in English (1997), an MFA
in Creative Writing (1997), and a PhD in English (2000) with emphases in American Poetry, history of poetry, and
Creative Writing.
In 2011, York was Richard L. Thomas
Visiting Professor of Creative Writing at Kenyon College. In 2011 and 2012, he will be a Visiting Faculty Fellow
at Emory University's James Weldon Johnson Institute for Advanced Interdisciplinary Studies, where he will be working
on a book about images and ideas of the Civil Rights Movement in contemporary art, music, and literature.
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A "Mini-Review" of Jake Adam York’s “Darkly” and “Narcissus Incomparabilis” by Zach Macholz, Contributing Editor
Jake Adam York’s work is perhaps most associated with its historical subject matter: the Civil Rights era
and in particular the stories of black men, women, and children who were the victims of racial violence in the Deep
South and who became martyrs of that era. Poems in his first two collections elegize these martyrs without
succumbing to the kind of sentimentality one might expect from a lesser poet writing about such tragic history.
The poems in his first two collections avoid sentimentality by refusing to rely on the historical
events themselves or the readers’ familiarity with the events to create meaning. Instead, his poems push beyond
the events themselves and become, in the words of Adrian Matejka, “part excavation and part reclamation.” This week’s two featured poems from Persons Unknown (Southern Illinois University Press Crab
Orchard Series in Poetry, 2010)—“Narcissus Incomparabilis,” and “Darkly,”—continue
in this tradition of excavation and reclamation, and do so in lines that are quite short, and help the poem lean
away from the narrative and more toward the meditative and lyrical.
“Darkly,” examines
the murder of Willie Edwards in 1957, but there are precious few details or lines that deal with the murder itself.
To be sure, there are a few lines and sentences that deal directly with details from the story, like: “So I
look for that place in the air // where they held a gun / on Willie Edwards // and told him he could jump”
or “when five men bent / in the diner’s greasy light— / …and planned to kill a man / they’d
never seen,” but this poem is not a narrative of the event itself. For the most part, this poem focuses
on the landscape, on the natural and man-made features the combine to set the scene for the event of Edwards’
murder. Consider the opening sentences:
The moss never falls.
However gray,
it
hangs like shirts
left to weather and rag
over the road
and the dead-end rail
and in all the branches
from
there to the shore
and then as far upriver
as you can see.
Here
it’s only open water,
empty sky,
two ends of road no one uses,
landfill on one side, thicket
on the
other,
the story of a bridge between.
The natural surroundings are foreboding: gray moss hanging
from all of the branches “as far as you can see,” and “open water,” and “an empty sky,”
combined to create a scene that is desolate and eerie. There’s also a suggestion of the place’s
distance and seclusion from civilization in “two ends of a road no one uses, / landfill on one side, thicket
// on the other, / the story of a bridge between.” Clearly, this is a place largely forgotten by most people,
a place abandoned and left to crumble, a place where there will be no passers-by.
Like many of York’s poems, this poem attempts to answer a difficult ethical question. In this case, the question
is something like: How do we think about difficult and bloody chapters in our history in a way that is honest and
helps us to understand them, rather than treating them reductively, or even dismissing them altogether? The
poem seems to answer this question in the lines: “To condemn is easy, you said, / to condemn is to turn away
// where no one will ever understand.” York’s poems do not condemn, and do not turn away, but rather,
step boldly into some of our most shameful historical moments, and take a long, hard look around to see what they
can see, and to report it back to the reader in a way that does justice to the moment. In doing so, these
poems elegize the martyrs, and also acknowledge the complexities of the moment (literally the moment of their deaths,
but also the historical moment of the period) in a way that avoids the pitfalls of reductive thinking it would be
easy for a poet to fall into when dealing with such a vile subject. In the case of Willie Edwards’ murder,
the moment itself is gone in the past, but as York’s poem proves, the desire to understand that moment is
not gone, and neither is our ability to inhabit that moment through poetry.
“Narcissus
incomparabilis,” is a poem that deals not with a particular historical moment, but rather, with a decidedly lyrical
one. Narcissus incomparabilis is the nonesuch daffodil, a flower common almost nowhere in the United States
except the Deep South. The poem, written in the second person, reads as a list or series of instructions to
the daffodil: “Lean down, lean down / while the light’s abducted,” and “Keep your own eye
still / so no one catches you.” This voice continues throughout the poem. The poem reads essentially
as a letter or list of instructions the daffodil at first, but when read and re-read, the poem seems less instructive
than pleading. The poem entreats the daffodil—symbolic of, and perhaps a metaphor for, the South—to
Lean
down now,
creel of starlight and moon,
and reflect again
your inherited light.
While these lines,
in a vacuum, might seem instructive, consider the final two sentences of the poem:
Lean down now,
as memory
hardens
its incomparable light.
Don’t let the sun
set on you again.
In the context of the body of York’s work—three
books which he essentially views as pieces of one larger project—this seems to be a poem that goes beyond a
particular historical event or moment and attempts instead to address the South, it’s relationship with the
darker chapters of its history, and the manner in which Southern people ought to critically consider their region’s
past.
Though they seem at first formally
distinct from one another, both “Darkly,” and “Narcissus Incomparabilis,” share an important
formal commonality: both use short lines, though for different reasons. In “Narcissus Incomparabilis,”
the short lines accentuate the notion that the poem is a plea or a prayer, being said gently, let out one breath
at a time. “Lean down now,” is a line repeated throughout the poem, and a line which, if it were
longer, would lose a great deal of its power. “Lean down now,” is a gentle command that must be
followed by a pause, the kind of pause a comma cannot create without an accompanying line break. To have written
this poem in longer lines would have lessened the effect of this particular line’s repetition, and also detracted
from the almost cryptic voice directing the daffodil. In “Darkly,” there are also short lines,
broken into couplets that move the poem forward steadily, in a measured way that contrasts the growing tension and
eerie anticipation of something dark lurking in the surroundings being described.
According
to the author himself, the poems in this collection try “to feel the breath go out of things and then to invite
the breath back in, so the poems can talk back.” Indeed, both of these poems breathe, and command the reader to breathe with them, in a way that makes me happy
to lend my lungs to the cause.
http://word.emerson.edu/ploughshares/2011/04/01/poetry-dialogue-jake-adam-york/
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Craig
Beaven reviews Persons Unknown by Jake Adam York from
diode
Jake Adam York’s
two previous books attempt to reinvigorate the idea of “Southern Poetry” or “Southern Writing.”
With a few contemporaries—most noticeably Joshua Poteat and Brian Barker—he works through tropes
of Southern landscape, the meaning of the south, its legacy especially concerning race, its literary traditions
(with plenty of references to Faulkner, Dave Smith, et al.), but also the place and extent of lyricism in contemporary
American poetry. The guiding light for these poets is probably the late Larry Levis, whose gothic style and extreme
empathy and sympathy with the downtrodden and forgotten seems to direct or influence the direction these poets
head off in, on their own explorations. Certainly his elegiac, Romantic, southern-gothic poems are the closest
model for these writers, and they must take in his influence, even as they work through and extend it.
York’s latest book continues his
exploration of the Civil Rights movement of the 60’s, and while many of the poems are rooted in historical
content, and are often about figures from history who were killed because of their race, the book is also an exploration
of the poetic lyric and the poetic line (especially as it relates to the sentence). What is compelling about this
book is not just its relation to historical events or facts, but also the power of York’s poetic ability, and
his quest to extend lyricism to an almost extreme degree.
What strikes one most is the book’s outright beauty, and the poet’s determination to render all things
in a brightly lit, still, eternal poetic landscape. This is an aesthetic quality but one that plays into the
content as well—in these long, present tense sentences, stories from history continue to happen. This presents
a kind of rhetoric about history, the legacy of racism in America, and how the present moment is informed by
these shared tragedies.
But even as a rhetoric or “point” about American history, it’s the poetry of the poems
that wins out. “Shore” is a representative piece from the collection. The poem attempts to bridge
history—and anonymity—by recounting the death of Aaron Lee and Joseph Thomas. The context for the
piece is a bit of literal sleuthing and researching in libraries and in the “field” as it were—
in
a library’s dim, old bulbs’
dirty light scumming the emulsions
oil, that chemical sprawl,
that rainbow
the dead always leave behind.
Aaron Lee, you are a forgotten mile
in New Orleans East,
an alleyway of scrapyards and boxcars
and derelict homes, trailer parks
now laced as curtains
where the flood has grazed,
a place even maps might forget.
The poem laments the typical map of American consciousness, one that
could forget the lives of two men who played an important role in civil rights. The extended lyric moment begins
in the detritus and material evidence of history, but goes on to imagine Aaron Lee as a place that is
a barometer—like curtains stained by floodwater—of destruction and loss. It is a complex image, conflating
person with a landscape, recalling natural disasters like Katrina, and conjuring, without ever having to say it,
the “tides of time” and the years as a passing current. Persons Unknown is almost solely comprised
of such techniques and moments.
Some of the most interesting gestures in the book come when the author/speaker places himself within
these historic locales, usually as an outsider wandering through a neighborhood, getting odd looks from the
residents; and often as an apparition in glass, a reflection in a car’s chrome and a restaurant’s
window. The poet becomes the invisible ferryman through these landscapes—there but not there, like the
ghosts and memories he describes.
The longest poem in the book, “And Ever,” alerts the reader with an epigraph that the poem will be
about (or for?) Medgar Evers. More than half the poems begin with either an epigraph (e.g. “for Mack Charles
Parker, lynched near Poplarville, Mississippi, April 24, 1959, recovered from the Pearl River, May 4, 1959”)
or with a setting (“Selma” or “Oxford”). These epigraphs do much of the work of situating
us in a narrative or landscape, and free up the poet from having to present a lot of back-story or scene-setting.
“And Ever” never has to bother with the history, but can present what’s at stake in a civil
rights narrative through a variety of lyric and poetic devices. The poem begins with light,
You
rise
to watch the leaves
breathe light to their edges
and burn,
drawing day from night
to wake the birds.
Are we the “you,” or is Evers, or is York leaving it ambiguous so that we may more deeply
identify with the historical figure? The meditation follows the element of light through several sections; it
becomes the glow of a television broadcasting JFK, the beauty of a firefly, and the ominous foreboding of headlights
sweeping into a driveway. The poem is intensely lyric; York releases himself from having to stay too close to
the “real” story and allows for poetry to emerge. The epigraph functions as background, and the
poet invents and riffs away from the literal source. The poems in Persons Unknown hope to rescue the
lost stories and figures by placing them into meaningful, beautiful poetic landscapes, and to sidestep mere history
writing or exposition.
Will
Persons Unknown—written by a white author, about African-American history—provoke any sort
of response from literary theorists or even from mainstream media, the way a book like The Confessions of Nat
Turner did in the 1960’s? It seems unlikely; the poems here are almost always ultimately about poetry,
about memory, about history and history making, and about telling and speech; in fact, many of the poems take
up the nature of language, speaking, and sound as their content—who is speaking, who gets heard, and who
is listening to the poem? They are rarely—if ever—“about” race. If they spend time recalling
black history, they eulogize and lament a world of injustice and ignorance, without ever crossing some sort of
line that would make a reader squirm. York’s poems are, for lack of a better word, sad. They stand before
these tragedies and mourn, knowing that to tell the stories is a kind of victory or duty, but that it will never
be enough to change history or humanity. As the book acknowledges, as “protest” or as “monuments”
the poems are as inadequate as any monument or gravestone. But as poems they succeed in amazing ways.
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An Interview with Jake Adam York by Andrew
McFadyen-Ketchum
Andrew
McFadyen-Ketchum: I really like the short couplets you utilize in "Darkly." Typically, I'm a
bigger fan of the long line, but here the short line paces the poem really well and makes much of the thick language
and the movement of the poem itself from one image and subject matter to the next more accessible than a longer
line might. Is accessibility something you had in mind when putting this poem together? Do you think much of the
tradition of the form you use when you write a poem. Couplets, of course, are a form in and of themselves...
Jake Adam York: Couplets, yes, are a form-or are
several forms, an Alexander Pope couplet being very different from a Paul Muldoon couplet, the character of the
couplet coming from the poet's use of rhyme and the way he or she manages the line, and it's this last element that's
most important to me.
In The Rhythms of
English Poetry Derek Attridge says something like there are only two meters in English (dimeter and trimeter)
and only three lines-a pure trimeter, a four-beat line composed of two dimeter stichs, and the pentameter or five-beat
line, which is a kind of improvisation that combines dimeter and trimeter stichs in ways that make the sentence, the
syntax, the true rhythmic manager.
I'm about
the line first, about its weight or length in relation to the pause, and sometimes I like a long line that has pauses
(caesuras) inside it. At other times I like a shorter line so that the pause of the phrase is amplified by the
line break and the sentence and the poem move more slowly. My question is about the pace of the poem, how quickly
it discloses itself, how long it holds the reader in its world. I think the way a poem manages its time and the
reader's time-how it immerses the reader-is what makes a poem "accessible."
A longer-lined poem could be accessible, but that poem has to manage the reader's time. Think of Levis's
"Elegy Ending In The Sound of A Skipping Rope": the lines and sentences are long, but so is the poem:
it's all proportional. And that proportion teaches the reader's mind to resonate with the poem.
AMK: I like how "Darkly" opens with
that short, declaration sentence "The moss never falls." Not only does it establish the poem's early subject
of meditation, but it sets a terse, somewhat dreary tone to the poem that I don't think would have been accomplished
has you combined that first line with the lines that follow. That said, I could see these first lines going through
multiple forms in the drafting process: "The moss never falls / however gray." or, perhaps, "The
moss never falls; / it hangs like shirts...". How much editing did these first few couplets go through. How
much editing do your poems go through in general?
JAY:
The kind of drafting you're talking about here-working out the syntax-I usually do in my head, or in my throat,
talking out the poem as I write it, so this is how these sentences were the first time I wrote them down. I played
with the line breaks, which meant playing with the stanza shape as well-eventually settling on the short line, determined
by the length of that first sentence. That becomes, to adopt a musical idea, the tonic everything else works from
or toward.
But those first lines were written after
much of the middle of the poem was written. I had some of the poem's images on paper and a few of the movements,
but the poem wasn't in the right order; it wasn't moving properly. So, about a month or so after writing the phrases
on the drafts I sent you, I started working on a new beginning-these lines-that gave the poem a pace, a line, a
music that put everything in an order that worked.
This
is pretty typical of my process: I spend some time writing notes, trying to get images or phrases on paper-to figure
out what's going to go into the poem-without worrying about the order. After a fallow time, then I go back to those
notes, this time trying to make the sentences. Or perhaps I should say the sentence, because I think of the poem
as a single, long sentence that contains other sentences. It doesn't work until it has a rhythm, a significant rhythm,
a gesture that everything carries. Much of the time I discover that rhythm by riffing, by talking the poem to the
empty house, which worries the dog, or while I'm walking.
But,
to answer your question more directly, I don't do a lot of this versioning on paper.
AMK: These poems are obviously about racism and the horrible results racism can have not only
on individuals but on entire communities. They're also about how history and memory have a funny way of distorting
reality or of forgetting certain events entirely. Persons Unknown is your third book. It's also the third book of
poems you've written than deals with the South, racism, Jim Crow, and the lynchings of African Americans. I think
most poets say they want their poems to have an impact on the world, but you do this very directly. Are you on a
mission? Do you think poetry ought to "say something" about our world or is this an expectation you reserve
only for your own work?
JAY: I don't
know that I'd say that poetry "ought" to say something about our world, but by the same token, it also
oughtn't "ought not" say anything about the world. And I think this poem is just trying to work through
some aspect of my world-the world and place in which I was raised, where I grew up, and in which, from time to time
I (and maybe all of us) still live.
I wrote about
the killing in this poem earlier, in my first book, Murder Ballads, in a poem called "Consolation," and
this poem continues a search begun there, to make sense of a story that keeps dragging me in. In "Consolation,"
you'd learn that one of the killers of Willie Edwards, Jr., was named "James York"---a dissonant historical
resonance. In "Consolation," I imagined killing the Klansmen, but it didn't work and now I'm back in this
poem. And this may seem like I'm trying very pointedly to do something "big," but the poem, in large part,
is just about working through this haunting, this dopplegangery.
That said, there is a larger project I've been working on, a project to memorialize the martyrs of the
Civil Rights era-127 men, women, and children, who were murdered for their involvements in the Freedom Movement-and
"Darkly" and "Consolation" are part of that project. I started this project (which is called
Inscriptions for Air) as a response to the Civil Rights Memorial in Montgomery, which calls us to remember events
many people may never even have heard of. (This is one of those distortions you're speaking about.) But it's become
clear to me, during the years (almost 10) I've been working on this project that one of the things these poems are
trying to do is to inform a contemporary discussion about race, racism, and race hatred. Too often, conversations about
the ecology of racism end with someone saying "Oh, I'm not racist," and moving on. But we all have places
in this world, and I think we need to look at those places to understand and to intervene in this ecology-which
is what I'm trying to do in this poem. This is a major element in my life outside of my poems, so why shouldn't
it be an element in my poems?
AMK:
Who is the speaker in "Darkly," Jake Adam York doing research for a poem, Jake Adam York walking along
a river and suddenly finding a poem within it, or someone else entirely. Who is the "you" in the poem,
the reader, some unnamed character? Does it really matter either way?
JAY: Is the speaker "Jake Adam York doing research for a poem, Jake Adam York walking
along a river and suddenly finding a poem within it"? First, I'd say that these things are not necessarily
different things: when you go looking for something, for a story, or trying to clarify an element in a story, you
can't say what you're going to find, so the more deliberate searching self and the (perhaps more traditional) lyric
self may be the same person.
That person is talking
to two people. The first is Dave Smith, the poet, who asked me, after reading "Consolation" some good
questions about that ecology of racism I was talking about earlier. One of those questions is in the poem, in stanza
12 and the lines that follow. The other person the speaker is talking to is the person Dave represents, the person
who may wonder why I'm writing these kinds of poems.
Does it really matter? I think this poem has something in it for someone who doesn't divine this conversational
situation-maybe the reader has to play both parts of a conversation he or she learns by reading the poem. But this
particular conversation is, in this poem, important to me. In many ways, Persons Unknown is a statement of poetics
as well as another collection of poems, as well as another entry in my memorial project, and this poem plays a particular
and important role in that statement.
AMK:
What's with that sudden, single-line stanza (is there a term for a single-line stanza??) "Some things are beyond
us." I'm sure you've written this way to add emphasis to this line but why this line in particular? Why do you
think it needs its own stanza to stand out in the first place?
JAY: Maybe we could call it a "singlet," though the closest historical term is "monostich,"
which is a poem consisting of a single line. (Come to think of it, it's probably just called a "stich.")
Creating a strong pause-highlighting the end of a train of thought and
the return to the poem's beginning-was more important than saying "This line is important," so I hope
the reader hears a silent second line in this couplet, a strong, llngering pause. The single-line stanza does put
unusual pressure on this one line, though, as you point out, which hopefully helps this line stick with the reader.
This poem has a meditative element, and this line is the climax of the meditation's narrative, so maybe it can earn
its lonely place. I don't do this often, but there are other places, like this, in Persons Unknown where the singlet/stich
seems right.
AMK: I love the lyrical
"Narcissus incomparabilis." First and foremost, it's an accessible lyric. By accessible, I mean that it
isn't a bunch of lyrical language strung together and called a poem. There are images that give us a sense of what
is happening in the poem, and the title of course let us know who is being spoken to, more or less. Talk to us a
little bit about lyric poems and how they operate. What are the differences between lyric and narrative? When do
you know a poem should be one or the other or, in the case of these two poems, a nice merging of both.
JAY: For me the first question about a poem is usually
not a question of mode or type, but a question of pace or time-how much time the poem will cover and how quickly
or slowly that time will pass. I like creating a contrast between the time of the poem's narrative and the time
of the poem's disclosure. So "Darkly" describes a drive and a walk through Montgomery that would take
about three hours, an itinerary that covers a little more than 50 years of regional and personal history, in a poem
that takes about five minutes to read. "Narcissus" is playing a similar game, compressing and stretching
the history of the South's "sundown towns" into the biological time of the flower-so a hundred years or
so of Southern history, and thousands and thousands of biological time-in a poem that takes less than a minute to
read. I think more about these relationships of time, and about a "shorter" poem and a "longer"
poem rather than "lyric" and "narrative": for me there are, instead of divergent modes, different
proportions or dispositions of time. Which is to say that, for me, all poems are about time.
AMK: Thank you, Jake.
JAY:
No problem. Thank you!
Jake Adam York interview at Ploughshares
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